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Robbie2 |
Mexican vanilla |
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I'm looking for a reliable source of good Mexican vanilla which is reasonably priced. Do any of you have suggestions? Robbie (too)
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Poppybee |
Re: Mexican vanilla | ||
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A common misconception exists about Mexican and Caribbean vanilla. People rave about the fabulous deal they got on a giant bottle of vanilla extract in Mexico, Haiti, Guadeloupe, etc. Further, it has such a unique flavour and it's stronger than any vanilla they've ever used. Well, sorry, it isn't pure vanilla extract. In fact, chances are the product in the big bottle is synthetic. Because vanilla originally came from Mexico, Central America, and the Caribbean, and because, at one time Mexico produced the world's finest vanilla, it follows that it would still be true. In fact, nearly all of the so-called vanilla extract coming from these countries is synthetic! Mexico had the monopoly on vanilla production until the latter part of the 19th century and the vanilla-growing region on the Gulf of Mexico was very prosperous. In the mid-1800s, the French invested heavily in vanilla plantations in Reunion, the Comoro Islands, and later, Madagascar, and by the early 20th century these regions gained control of the world vanilla market. In the 1880s the first synthetic vanillas came from Germany, providing a cheaper alternative to natural vanilla. In the early 20th century, the Mexican Revolution raged throughout the country, and for a while, was especially fierce on the Gulf Coast of Mexico. Mexico's share of the world's vanilla supply took a nosedive, but its reputation remained intact for several decades. During this time, Mexico, Central America, and the Caribbean began selling cheap synthetic vanillas hoping to cash in on the association of Mexico and vanilla. It worked. By adding coumarin to synthetic vanillin, the flavour was a little more like pure vanilla. Coumarin, from the Tonka tree, can be toxic, especially to the liver. We've outlawed its use in the United States since the 1950s. Although there are label laws in Mexico they aren't enforced; in some of the other countries there are no restrictions. So, don't count on the label for an accurate account of the ingredients. Needless to say, synthetic vanillas are a big industry as most tourists have no idea they are being duped and it's an easy product to sell. How do you know if it's pure vanilla? There are a few tip-offs: * Is it amber coloured, dark and murky, or clear? Clear is pure, synthetic vanillin. It's often called "crystal vanilla." Dark and murky is synthetic vanillin, most likely ethyl vanillin derived from coal tar. It may also be dark because it contains red dye that we've banned in the U.S. or it may contain caramel colouring. If it's truly amber-coloured it may be natural vanilla. * What is the alcohol content? Usually the synthetics range from no alcohol to about 2% alcohol (which acts as a stabilizer). There are some vanilla-vanillin blends and some cheap-quality vanillas that have 25% alcohol, but they aren't worth buying either. * How much did you pay for it? This is the biggest tip-off. If it's in a big bottle and you paid $20.00 or less, it's absolutely not vanilla extract. Pure vanilla extract usually costs more in Mexico because only one company makes quality extract, and only in small quantities. The only brand of pure vanilla extract in Mexico that I recommend is made by Orlando Gaya Hijos in Gutierrez Zamora, Vera Cruz and it usually can be only found in the Vera Cruz region. If you want safe, good quality pure Mexican vanilla extract, buy it in this country. And if you want synthetics, buy them here too. It's the same price as you'd pay in Mexico but American synthetics aren't adulterated with dangerous additives. |
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Well, I've never had REAL vanille... | ||
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Which is a good thing, I suppose - because I'll never know what I'm missing!
Robbie (too), I know it's an unorthodox way of buying great tasting, knock-off Mexican Vanilla (which still blows the socks off of anything I've ever come across in the States), but I purchase mine on ebay. I usually buy five bottles at a time, so I can give a few to family members, and keep extra on hand for myself! Just a thought! Have a great day! toothless hag |
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Unregistered(d) |
Watch Out! | ||
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Cheap "mexican vanilla" often contains substances that can destroy your liver. It is illegal in the US, but some of the Mexican Vanilla" is from a type of plant that tastes like vanilla but it toxic.
Think about people who die from mushroom poisoning. The mushroom wasn't really a "poison", but something in it destroyed their livers. Without the liver, the body will poison itself. It may be "natural" and it can even taste good, but it isn't edible. I'd rather pay full price for real vanilla. |
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Unregistered(d) |
Mexican Vanilla | ||
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Thanks so very much for the helpful information about the vanilla. A sweet neighbor brought some back from a business trip to Mexico, and I was thrilled with it. About a month later, I noticed a whitish foamy looking substance forming on the top of the stuff, so I've been hesitant to use it ever since. I haven't been sure who to ask about it, so I really appreciate the help. I'm throwing it out. I'm also going to pray about how to share this information with my neighbor's wife, and a family member who also has some.
Thanks again. |
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Unregistered(d) |
Mexican Vanilla | ||
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I agree that some of the Mexican Vanilla is probably not good for you. I have used the La Vencedora which does not contain any of the bad stuff and it is great vanilla. It costs a little more than the regular vanilla from Mexico, but it is worth it.
I got mine from www.OldMexicoStore.com It arrived quickly and they were great to deal with. |
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The post by poppybee is plagiarized from the website www.vanilla.com. Please see the page www.vanilla.com/html/facts-mexican.html. While the info may be correct, this practice should be frowned upon without citations.
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Unregistered(d) |
mexican vanilla | ||
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I use mexican vanilla and it is very good, you just have to watch where you buy it. I have baked with real vanilla for years and it is great to use and is a must if you bake. Maggie |
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Vanilla | ||
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I have used Mexican Vanilla for over 35 years, my mother and grandmother also used it. I found a warning on the internet about using Mexican Vanilla from the FDA so I had a friend who is a chemist take a sample to work. He analyzed it and found coumarin in it, which is carcinogenic. I decided not to use it anymore. You might check the internet and read the warnings.
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